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russia is offering a bleak outlook on how things might end for president assad. they said they were preparing to evacuate thousands of russian citizens from the country. with rebel forces closing in on the capital, damascus, richard engel witnessed firsthand the tough fighting still being waged in the larger city of aleppo. >> reporter: the syrian regime appears to be cracking but the rebels remain outgun and unable to protect civilians, especially in aleppo. an ancient once-bustling city the size of chicago. we followed a rebel fighter. we're going to go to one of your sniper positions. he runs across intersections exposed to government fire and joins his unit. they peek around corners, fire at government soldiers. and shout insults at them. "i joined this revolt because of the tyranny and for religion, because for 40 years we have been oppressed" says this sniper, who painted furniture before the war. the fighting has left this once beautiful city devastated. historic mosques destroyed, bread lines, gas shortages, power outages. this was one of the only hospita
russia is offering a bleak outlook on how things might end for president assad. they said they were preparing to evacuate thousands of russian citizens from the country. with rebel forces closing in on the capital, damascus, richard engel witnessed firsthand the tough fighting still being waged in the larger city of aleppo. >> reporter: the syrian regime appears to be cracking but the rebels remain outgun and unable to protect civilians, especially in aleppo. an ancient once-bustling city...
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russia kept their close ties to syria. the one military base they have outside the former soviet union they have in syria. the russians and the syrians are very close. they're very close to syria's dictator, bashar al assad. they were very close with al assad's dad. they've done billions of dollars' worth of trade deals, as i've said, in weapons alone. and in this year and a half-long civil war in syria that has cost tens of thousands of lives, syria's only friends in the world have been naturally iran and china but also their best friends, russia. russia. and that was true until today. russia today did not formally declare that they're no longer going to support the syrian government against the rebels, but for the first time a high-ranking russian official said publicly that yeah, it looks like assad is going to lose this war. i mean, the united states has been saying that forever. nato has been saying that forever. everybody who wants assad to go has been saying that forever. you try to create an air of inevitability ab
russia kept their close ties to syria. the one military base they have outside the former soviet union they have in syria. the russians and the syrians are very close. they're very close to syria's dictator, bashar al assad. they were very close with al assad's dad. they've done billions of dollars' worth of trade deals, as i've said, in weapons alone. and in this year and a half-long civil war in syria that has cost tens of thousands of lives, syria's only friends in the world have been...
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russia is step closer to banning u.s. adoptions of russian children. the upper chamber of the parliament voted in favor of that measure today. it is now up to president putin to decide whether to sign the move in retaliation for a new u.s. law calling for sanctions against russians found to be human rights violators. good news for netflix users. the service is up and running again after users in the u.s. and canada and latin america were not able to stream shows on certain devices on christmas eve. a lot of angry folks were out there. it was the result of an outage at a web service center in virginia. up next, disappointing holiday sales for retailers. it was the slowest growth since the recession. a new poll shows about half of americans are hopeful about their lives in 2013. are you more hopeful or fearful about what's in store next year? it's our gut check. as always, you can join the "news nation." there is our address. facebook.com/"news nation." . >> join the "news nation" on twitter. you can find the twitter page at "news nation." today of cours
russia is step closer to banning u.s. adoptions of russian children. the upper chamber of the parliament voted in favor of that measure today. it is now up to president putin to decide whether to sign the move in retaliation for a new u.s. law calling for sanctions against russians found to be human rights violators. good news for netflix users. the service is up and running again after users in the u.s. and canada and latin america were not able to stream shows on certain devices on christmas...
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that also links to the issue of outside support for the syrian regime, including russia which says it will stand by president bashar al assad despite comments yesterday from a senior russian official acknowledging that in fact president ais losing control of that country to the opposition. as you mentioned today, the united states sent a symbolic show of force to turkey and nato member along with the dutch government. they have now deployed patriotic missiles, a defense system that will include 400 american operators to work that system for the turkish government. lynn? >> ayman, thanks so much. >>> back here at home after taking herself out of the running as secretary of state, susan rice is keeping her eye on ball, meeting with the president at the white house today. on twitter last night, rice rallied followers under the hash tag let's go. saying we have a lot work to do for the american people and the world. and rice was even more specific in a "washington post" oh-ed, listing jobs, the deficit and national security among her top priorities. nbc's danielle lee as more. >> reporter
that also links to the issue of outside support for the syrian regime, including russia which says it will stand by president bashar al assad despite comments yesterday from a senior russian official acknowledging that in fact president ais losing control of that country to the opposition. as you mentioned today, the united states sent a symbolic show of force to turkey and nato member along with the dutch government. they have now deployed patriotic missiles, a defense system that will include...
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for the first time, russia is acknowledging that the president may oust bahashad. the president is continuing to gain strength and suspects that he will be home for christmas. >>> welcome back to "hardball." with a gritty state of new jersey's home to the boss, bruce springsteen, and the boardwalk of the empire fame, it's also the home of an increasingly popular brass politician by the name of chris christie. he may have sat out the presidential race in 2012, but he later earned high marks for his handling of hurricane sandy. how he's leaving the door very open for a bid for president in 2016. here he was on abc with barbara walters just last night. >> when you were pressed to run for president this time, you said you didn't think you were ready. what did you mean by that? >> i wasn't ready to undertake a campaign. that's an enormous decision to make for yourself and your family, and i didn't feel ready. >> how do you think you're going to feel in 2016? >> well, you know what? i have no idea. >> in your fantasies when you're just talking to yourself, do you say pre
for the first time, russia is acknowledging that the president may oust bahashad. the president is continuing to gain strength and suspects that he will be home for christmas. >>> welcome back to "hardball." with a gritty state of new jersey's home to the boss, bruce springsteen, and the boardwalk of the empire fame, it's also the home of an increasingly popular brass politician by the name of chris christie. he may have sat out the presidential race in 2012, but he later...
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senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and did a lead story on nightly news on this topic. the question fors the president is ultimately what do you do when your foreign policy has been premised on bringing american troops home, at a time when american power and influence is needed particularly in the middle east, but there are no easy answers. this i think is what sort of calls out for an obama doctrine in a second term. he doesn't seem to have one at the moment which is a big issue. >> and doesn't have a foreign policy team yet. he's still wrestling with those decisions. more on that to come. david gregory, thank you very much. chris cizilla. coming up sunday on "meet the press," the fiscal cliff debate. the latest between house republican whip kevin mccarthy and assistant senate majority leader dick durbin, the two men who have been at the table. congress hearing from all sides on the fiscal
senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and did a lead story on nightly news on this topic. the question fors the president is ultimately what do you do when your foreign policy has been premised on bringing american troops home, at a time when american power and influence is needed particularly...
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russia has been syria's strong effort ally in all of this. is there anything that can be done to convince russia to pull back their support? >> well, chris, i think that is a pertinent issue right now. this is a dangerous situation, obviously, when there's a -- at least the possibility of the use of chemical weapons by the syrian government or the possibility when that government falls those weapons might not be secure and there are terrorist groups, of course, some quite radical, active in syria. i think secretary clinton was right to meet with the russian foreign minister today. the third person joining that meeting was brahimi, the united nations' diplomat, troubleshooter for syria. i imagine both secretary clinton and mr. brahimi would be lean on the russians to convince assad to leave power. he's finished in syria. there's no way he's going to emerge victorious. the only options for him are to lose and lose his life, most probability, or leave syria but certainly this civil war now more than 40,000 people dead, and with the latest proble
russia has been syria's strong effort ally in all of this. is there anything that can be done to convince russia to pull back their support? >> well, chris, i think that is a pertinent issue right now. this is a dangerous situation, obviously, when there's a -- at least the possibility of the use of chemical weapons by the syrian government or the possibility when that government falls those weapons might not be secure and there are terrorist groups, of course, some quite radical, active...
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that includes russia, which has been on the sidelines actually arming the syrian government until now, but hopefully russia, no one wants to see syria use, again it was reported in 1982 that hall fa al assad used chemical weapons on his people. our government again is reported to be moving to recognize this more unified opposition. the fact that it exists is partially a credit to secretary of state clinton, but also to egypt and other neighbors who have pushed for this to happen. its headquarters is currently in cairo, by the way. and so if this happens and if the international community focuses i think there is finally a chance of a -- not just a way for the end of this -- the assad regime to be achieved, but for a responsible government to move into its place. >> and now let me ask you, move you to the israeli/u.s. relationship, because israel has now taken one more step, first last week as we reported they took a key step in deciding to build this e-1 settlement which if they were to proceed, is a red line, i know that the british have warned them that they have crossed a red line,
that includes russia, which has been on the sidelines actually arming the syrian government until now, but hopefully russia, no one wants to see syria use, again it was reported in 1982 that hall fa al assad used chemical weapons on his people. our government again is reported to be moving to recognize this more unified opposition. the fact that it exists is partially a credit to secretary of state clinton, but also to egypt and other neighbors who have pushed for this to happen. its...
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russia is the third most popular country for americans to adopt behind china and ethiopia. >>> former president george h.w. bush remains in the intensive care unit of a houston hospital today. in a statement his longtime chief of staff urged the to put the harps back in the closet. the former president is 88 years old and has been in the hospital since november 23 for a bad case of bronchitis. he has since suffered a series of complications. >>> the national weather service has issued a new winter storm warning for the eastern half of the country as a new system threatens to cause even more travel headaches throughout the region. this comes after more than 21 inches of snow and rain already fell in the northeast. record snowfall in arkansas has left nearly 200,000 people without power. joining me now is the weather channel's kelly cass. kelly, i'm here in washington, d.c. we are hearing warnings from d.c. to maine. don't drive on saturday. you know, hunker down. what's going to hit the east coast over the weekend? >> it will get messy, that's for sure. a lot of people are still trying
russia is the third most popular country for americans to adopt behind china and ethiopia. >>> former president george h.w. bush remains in the intensive care unit of a houston hospital today. in a statement his longtime chief of staff urged the to put the harps back in the closet. the former president is 88 years old and has been in the hospital since november 23 for a bad case of bronchitis. he has since suffered a series of complications. >>> the national weather service...
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russia now joining in. could stronger laws have prevented that gun violence in oregon? we'll talk to brady campaign president dan gross. andrea mitchell reports is next right here. gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? but some things never get old... marie callender's dutch apple pie with fresh fuji apples and a crust made from scratch... it makes home at the holidays even sweeter. marie callender's. it's time to savor. we create easy-to-use, powerful trading tools for all. look at these streaming charts! they're totally customizable and they let you visualize what might happen next. that's genius! we knew you needed a platform that c
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we're looking at russia to see when russia finally gives up on assad. if they are, in fact, coming close, it's over. he's done. >> that's the beginning of the end. and i think that's finally in play. brahimi who preceded kofi annan trying to do a diplomatic process finally, i think, has something to work with. it's the possibility of the threat that the syrian regime might turn to chemical munitions, and the russians realize that would be the equivalent of jumping and that their long-term equities. the russians realize that would be too far, not on moral grounds, but on real politic rounds. so the chances of telling the syrians don't do it, but the russians saying if you do it, you won't be supported. and possibly giving him a way out before he thinks -- before he makes the decision whether to do it. this has all come into play. so what was gridlocked for months has finally now begun to open up. so things are both getting a little bit worse, but also you can actually see some opportunity here that you haven't seen in syria literally for over a year. >>
we're looking at russia to see when russia finally gives up on assad. if they are, in fact, coming close, it's over. he's done. >> that's the beginning of the end. and i think that's finally in play. brahimi who preceded kofi annan trying to do a diplomatic process finally, i think, has something to work with. it's the possibility of the threat that the syrian regime might turn to chemical munitions, and the russians realize that would be the equivalent of jumping and that their long-term...
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you write that russia may be shifting its pro-assad position. at this point, do you think that russia leadership and the united states can get together on syria? >> you know, i think that the russians now understand that the regime probably isn't going to survive. however, i don't think that the russians are going to get actively involved with us in any effort to militarily intervene in syria. i think that their hope is to protect their interests, that if there's going to be a new regime, that they keep their investments and naval facilities, but i don't think they're going to join with us in getting involved. >> what do we know about the scope, the size, and the variety of the syrian chemical -- of their chemical weapons stash? >> well, in that -- the syrians, of course, have denied they don't have any. that there's not that public information revealed about i, but i think it's pretty clear. they do have a chemical weapons stash, and whatever it is it's too much and too damaging for anyone's comfort. >> the united states has warned president as
you write that russia may be shifting its pro-assad position. at this point, do you think that russia leadership and the united states can get together on syria? >> you know, i think that the russians now understand that the regime probably isn't going to survive. however, i don't think that the russians are going to get actively involved with us in any effort to militarily intervene in syria. i think that their hope is to protect their interests, that if there's going to be a new regime,...
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that will involve in different ways china, russia and india. we have a crisis on our hands in syria. we have pressures to go to war against iran. these are the kind of issues that really need attentive leadership from the secretary of state that is intensely interested in them and has the kind of experience and global background that is needed for that kind of job. >> i just want to add to the list the recent north korea missile test, rocket test, aka, a missile test, and the close collaboration between north korea and iran. iran is pretty advanced on miniaturizing nuclear warheads. and north korea is very advanced on missiles. and if that collaboration continues, we may have a very serious confrontation. >> and so there's no island of stability out there in this from north korea all the way into africa. and a lot of the intel people say that the next four years may be dominated by a series of crises and meltdowns. and that, you know, i think that's quite likely or certainly more likely than the idea that there's going to be a period of peace.
that will involve in different ways china, russia and india. we have a crisis on our hands in syria. we have pressures to go to war against iran. these are the kind of issues that really need attentive leadership from the secretary of state that is intensely interested in them and has the kind of experience and global background that is needed for that kind of job. >> i just want to add to the list the recent north korea missile test, rocket test, aka, a missile test, and the close...
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is russia can do something. russia is softening the position on regime change in syria, because i think that they see the syrian regime, this might be an indication we're entering the end game. their job is to ensure that assad doesn't go from even though he's killed 40,000 people, he has been a fairly rational and self-preserving actor here. bombing them with sarin gas means he tipped over into utterly irrational and the whole world has a big problem on his hands. >> this brings up the question of should more have been done earlier, and what were the options? >> it's easy for senator mccain when you're not in power saying we should do all things. the thing we should remember is regime change, libya, egypt, iraq, it very rarely goes well. >> the consequences of regime change, even when it's supported. >> right. in syria there are so many more competing factions for power, that i think a regime change in syria, we might be in for a whole different category of problems. to say that the united states should just wa
is russia can do something. russia is softening the position on regime change in syria, because i think that they see the syrian regime, this might be an indication we're entering the end game. their job is to ensure that assad doesn't go from even though he's killed 40,000 people, he has been a fairly rational and self-preserving actor here. bombing them with sarin gas means he tipped over into utterly irrational and the whole world has a big problem on his hands. >> this brings up the...
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he did a treaty with russia. he did increase and speed up the work to secure these nuclear materials. he made it harder for other countries to try to get these. he faced resistance particularly in russia and in political opponents in the u.s. senate. so he's only achieved about half of what he intended to do. and that's what made this speech so important today. he's saying the job is not yet done. we have a long way to go. i intend to see it through to the end. >> one of the last times you and i talked about this, we talked about the fact that what the republicans in the senate, in particular, demanded in exchange for ratifying the new start treaty with russia, they demanded many, many, many billions of dollars to be put into building new nuclear weapons and supposedly modernizing the nuclear arsenal. for a president taking this thing apart shell by shell, to also be making those big investments in nuclear weapons laboratories and manufacturing and modernizing, it seems like a bit of an oxymoron. how do you asses
he did a treaty with russia. he did increase and speed up the work to secure these nuclear materials. he made it harder for other countries to try to get these. he faced resistance particularly in russia and in political opponents in the u.s. senate. so he's only achieved about half of what he intended to do. and that's what made this speech so important today. he's saying the job is not yet done. we have a long way to go. i intend to see it through to the end. >> one of the last times...
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russia says they're going to remain in support of president assad despite doubt that arose last week after they met privately with secretary of state hillary clinton on the issue of chemical weapons. >>> and to the crisis and the mess in cairo. egypt's president more morsi is asking them to stay there. more syrians are refusing to cancel a rev 49er render. morsi did cancel the rally. it did little to bring calm to the streets of cairo. the washington post wrote about the muted response from the united states through all of this saying, quote, the administration's rejoineder is that this isn't about america. egyptians and other arabs are writing their history now, and they will have to live with the consequences. moreover, the last thing secular protesters need is an american embrace. that's surely true, but it's crazy for washington to appear to take sides for those who want a liberal, tolerant egypt. somehow that's where the administration has ended up. we'll talk more about this with david ignatius coming up on "morning joe." >>> now to the hoax. it has two australian deejays apolo
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russia, south africa and finland. people embracing the idea that the spirit of those lost at sandy hook elementary endures, and that some good can come out of something even this bad. >> that was nbc's ann curry. i'm a huge fan of the concept of paying it forward, not just for newtown and just honoring them. it's easy. whoever is behind you in the coffee line, pay for their lunch. it will make you feel a lot better, too. >>> still ahead, why are you awake? your tweets, texts and e-mails are next. "morning joe" moments away. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is
russia, south africa and finland. people embracing the idea that the spirit of those lost at sandy hook elementary endures, and that some good can come out of something even this bad. >> that was nbc's ann curry. i'm a huge fan of the concept of paying it forward, not just for newtown and just honoring them. it's easy. whoever is behind you in the coffee line, pay for their lunch. it will make you feel a lot better, too. >>> still ahead, why are you awake? your tweets, texts and...
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and disability group in america. 152 countries have already ratified the treaty including china and russia. the treaty is modelled after existing u.s. law. former senator bob dole is 89 years old. he just got out of the hospital yesterday. and today he kaim to the senate floor in a wheelchair to support the treaty. eight republicans and two independents voted for the treaty including john mccain. but it wasn't enough. the treaty failed 61-38. >> it was solid then. he means it. and i think the organizing around it is so important. the labor movement, consumer groups, women's groups. >> i'm joined by a columnist for the nation magazine and howard fineman, msnbc political analyst. great to have you with us. howard, you first. when bob dole comes to the senate and he can't move people, where is the common sense? >> the senate is lost. that's the way i would put it. bob dole, one of the most revered figures. he's almost literally on his death bed a week or two ago. who commoned the courage to come to the senate to be the conscious on something he championed in 1990. this was senator bob dole, a
and disability group in america. 152 countries have already ratified the treaty including china and russia. the treaty is modelled after existing u.s. law. former senator bob dole is 89 years old. he just got out of the hospital yesterday. and today he kaim to the senate floor in a wheelchair to support the treaty. eight republicans and two independents voted for the treaty including john mccain. but it wasn't enough. the treaty failed 61-38. >> it was solid then. he means it. and i think...
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russia has been the single biggest sort of adopted children by u.s. families. >>> emergency contraceptives will remain part of the federal health care law. -- and similar contraceptive bills from acquired health care plans. two companies sued the government. >>> if you've been to an aquarium, a question may have crossed your mind, what if the glass shattered? it happened last, it burt right there. that poor person, showering crowds will live sharks and sharding of glass. 16 people were hurt and three lemon sharks, dozens of turtles and lots of fish were killed. >>> the 13 to watch in 2013. politico has a new list out. we'll talk about a rising star and hollywood celebrity that made that list. that's coming up in about five. >>> the death toll from a powerful storm has now climbed to 12 at the airports nearly 3,000 flights have been canceled tuesday tuesday. weather channel meteorologist mike seidel is live near buffalo. it looks like the snow has subsided a wee bit? >> reporter: it has in upstate new york, richard. roads in great shape. they don't mes
russia has been the single biggest sort of adopted children by u.s. families. >>> emergency contraceptives will remain part of the federal health care law. -- and similar contraceptive bills from acquired health care plans. two companies sued the government. >>> if you've been to an aquarium, a question may have crossed your mind, what if the glass shattered? it happened last, it burt right there. that poor person, showering crowds will live sharks and sharding of glass. 16...
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already been ratified by 126 of those countries, including the united kingdom, france, germany, china, russia has ratified it. now you can pass anything in the senate with 60 votes. except treaties which require 66. a two-thirds majority. every democrat voted for the treaty and only eight republicans voted for the treaty. 38 republicans disgraced themselves and disgraced the senate. by voting against it and controlling the outcome. john kerry tried everything he could on the senate floor to show republicans the way to vote for this treaty. >> it really isn't controversial. what this treaty says is very simple. it just says that you can't discriminate against the disabled. it says that other countries have to do what we did 22 years ago when we set the example for the world and passed the americans with disabilities act. >> the treaty was supported by organizations representing people with disabilities and veterans groups but that was not good enough for 38 republicans. it was supported by senator john mccain, himself a disabled veteran. >> bob dole has been our leader on the issue of disabili
already been ratified by 126 of those countries, including the united kingdom, france, germany, china, russia has ratified it. now you can pass anything in the senate with 60 votes. except treaties which require 66. a two-thirds majority. every democrat voted for the treaty and only eight republicans voted for the treaty. 38 republicans disgraced themselves and disgraced the senate. by voting against it and controlling the outcome. john kerry tried everything he could on the senate floor to...
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. >>> the upper chamber of russia votes to oppose americans adopting russian orphans. they sanction russians seen as violators, some 740,000 children lack parental custody in russia. >>> the world's longest high speed train rail is a reality. the train cuts a trip from 20 hours to 8. it's over a 1,428-mile trip. the first left beijing this morning. >>> celebrity baby news in the form of the picture from jessica jump son in a tweet. her daughter maxwell with the words "big sis" in the sand in front of her. seems to confirm rumors the 32-year-old singer is once again pregnant. >>> despite slashing prices, it was a disappointing holiday season for retailers. cnbc's jackie deangelis is here. how's it going? >> good morning, richard. the numbers are in and not pretty. according to mastercard spending pulse unit, sales for the eight weeks up to christmas rose only .7 of a percent from a year ago. compared with expectations of 3% to 4% growth and a 2% figure last year, and it's really not that fantastic. not only was the overall number disappointing, but the online numbers mi
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if russia does that, it basically communicates that russia no longer has confidence in the assad regime. >> right. >> same thing with the united states. we opened diplomatic negotiations and when you are confronted with that decision, does the situation become so dangerous that you withdraw? you're sending a signal you no longer have confidence that a government can properly protect its people and this is the recalculation that's going to have to be done. you know? we are going to find our diplomats in these kind of challenging situations but what will happen in these high threat areas is we'll recognize and we can no longer rely first and foremost on the host nation government but to bring more marines, more diplomatic security in to the situations so that we provide a basic level of protection for our diplomats in these troubling post-conflict zones. >> p.j. quickly switching gears, chuck hagel is widely rumored to be the next pick of secretary of defense, coming under attack of fellow republicans on his record on foreign affairs. what is the truth here? >> i don't know what decision
if russia does that, it basically communicates that russia no longer has confidence in the assad regime. >> right. >> same thing with the united states. we opened diplomatic negotiations and when you are confronted with that decision, does the situation become so dangerous that you withdraw? you're sending a signal you no longer have confidence that a government can properly protect its people and this is the recalculation that's going to have to be done. you know? we are going to...
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>> russia is key. russia has been backing assad diplomatically at the u.n. and has deep ties into assad's regime. if they begin to walk away from syria and there appear to be signals that they are distancing themselves, that will put pressure on those around assad to make sure that they do not take assad's lead in potentially using these weapons and helpses move towards the resolution of this. >> you have a ground strategy perhaps being considered and then you have an air strategy. air seems to be the one that's being discussed most because it can be most surgical. is there such a thing when we're talking about chemical weapons as being a surgical military option? >> there is not a clear surgical military it would take 75,000 troops to secure the sites that we know of, dropping ordinance on-sites that have sarin and even mustard gas and other nerve agents can be very damaging, get blown away in the wind. it's not clear this is surgical. the key thing is to ensure this country doesn't implode, that there's a managed transition, that assad has moved out in a m
>> russia is key. russia has been backing assad diplomatically at the u.n. and has deep ties into assad's regime. if they begin to walk away from syria and there appear to be signals that they are distancing themselves, that will put pressure on those around assad to make sure that they do not take assad's lead in potentially using these weapons and helpses move towards the resolution of this. >> you have a ground strategy perhaps being considered and then you have an air strategy....
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russia has been assad's biggest ally and chief supporter? do you think russia is really considering abandoning him? >> i think that russians have long been in touch with the syrian opposition. they understand assad cannot -- syria, first of all, their ally, even if assad survives, which is unlikely, is never going to emerge in the same coherent, cohesive state, that the nation that they had supported these many years. they're, i think, beginning to understand that their assets, their interests, their influence on the ground in syria, would be much better protected if they began to hedge their bets. whether or not they can work to actually facilitate assad's departure, or demise is another matter and whether they would be willing to work with us. the russians are tired, putin in particular, of watching the united states bring down its former clients, gadhafi in libya saddam and now the assad. so i think as a former great power, the russians read reality but i think will be cautious in wanting to create a kind of western or u.s. imposed soluti
russia has been assad's biggest ally and chief supporter? do you think russia is really considering abandoning him? >> i think that russians have long been in touch with the syrian opposition. they understand assad cannot -- syria, first of all, their ally, even if assad survives, which is unlikely, is never going to emerge in the same coherent, cohesive state, that the nation that they had supported these many years. they're, i think, beginning to understand that their assets, their...
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if russia could try to influence assad to leave as quickly as possible, that would certainly help the situation where too many people are being killed, and both russia and the united states have an interest in making sure that the chemical weapons stocks in syria don't fall into the hands of a radical islamist group or terrorist group which could happen in the event of the fall of the assad government, so american and russian interests may be converging at the end of this phase of the syrian conflict more than they were certainly, say, a year ago when russia was an unstinting supporter of the assad regime. >> nicolas burns, ending on an up note. thank you very much. >> good to see you. this just in. president obama moments ago outside the white house walking over to blair house talked about the state of the fiscal cliff talks in answer to a question. >> how are you feeling about a deal? optimistic? >> still a work in progress. >> he said it's a work in progress. coming up next, it's all about hillary, but, first, sir paul mccartney paying tribute to hurricane sandy. first responders.
if russia could try to influence assad to leave as quickly as possible, that would certainly help the situation where too many people are being killed, and both russia and the united states have an interest in making sure that the chemical weapons stocks in syria don't fall into the hands of a radical islamist group or terrorist group which could happen in the event of the fall of the assad government, so american and russian interests may be converging at the end of this phase of the syrian...
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at least four people were killed after a plane crashed in russia's busiest airport. 12 crew members but no passengers were on board at the time of the accident. new york police have a woman in connection with the murder of a man pushed into a subway train, they say she is believed to be homeless and emotionally disturbed. she was arrested and made statements to policie implicatig herself in the murder. >>> and a lawyer for the family said that his client of a 6-year-old student heard screaming and shooting over an intercom and has said that they failed to provide a safe school setting for the client. >>> armed volunteers around schools in arizona, that is the plan of maricopa county sheriff. he is referred to as the toughest sheriff in the country c can. he calls the volunteer army as his posse, meanwhile, guns are flying off the shelves. gun owners are stock piles assault rifles fearing a ban on the weapons, perhaps. joining me is arizona attorney general tom horn, pushing for the ability to arm at least one school official per school. good to have you. >> good to be here. thank you fo
at least four people were killed after a plane crashed in russia's busiest airport. 12 crew members but no passengers were on board at the time of the accident. new york police have a woman in connection with the murder of a man pushed into a subway train, they say she is believed to be homeless and emotionally disturbed. she was arrested and made statements to policie implicatig herself in the murder. >>> and a lawyer for the family said that his client of a 6-year-old student heard...
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. >>> heart break and anxiety of hundreds of parents as russia's president signs a bill banning americans from adopting children from that country. we're going to hear from some parents whose dreams could be dashed. that's straight ahead. >>> plus, mandatory visits. how china's trying to make sure the elders are respected. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers
. >>> heart break and anxiety of hundreds of parents as russia's president signs a bill banning americans from adopting children from that country. we're going to hear from some parents whose dreams could be dashed. that's straight ahead. >>> plus, mandatory visits. how china's trying to make sure the elders are respected. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't...
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that's because russia has an adoption problem. last year, more than 100,000 children living in state institutions and russians themselves do not adopt in large numbers. in comparison over the last two decades, more than 60,000 russian children have been taken in by american families. no other country helps more. some russian politicians say it's an embarrassment their country doesn't care for its own and they hope the bill will encourage people to act. craig? >> duncan, from our london bureau today, thank you. sir, do appreciate that. >>> back here, guns for groceries in los angeles tops the look at stories around the news nation today. the lapd collected more than 2,000 guns from the anonymous buy back program. the weapons were turned in, no questions asked in exchange for grocery gift card worth up to 200 bucks. the event held earlier than planned because of the school massacre in newtown, connecticut. >>> in china, 16 people recovering after an aquarium in shanghai mall, there it is right there, it burst open last week. investi
that's because russia has an adoption problem. last year, more than 100,000 children living in state institutions and russians themselves do not adopt in large numbers. in comparison over the last two decades, more than 60,000 russian children have been taken in by american families. no other country helps more. some russian politicians say it's an embarrassment their country doesn't care for its own and they hope the bill will encourage people to act. craig? >> duncan, from our london...
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russia is a series of clients of russia's, putin has said, you guys, you americans, you can't be sank moneyus about how people live their lives. you want everybody to be like the united states. okay. you saw what happens when you try to foment democracy in places that aren't ready for it. we're here to tell you that if you try to upend assad, even if he is going to ethwe'll go out of business -- >> on his own accord. >> on his own, if you try to do that, you won't like the result, and we are reluktant to go do something that's not going to have a positive effect. we're listening to what putin said. he makes some sense for once. >> colonel jab jacobs. jack, as always, good to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me on the program. >> starting at midnight on saturday, gay and lesbian couple wills faebl be able to legally get married in this country. maine becoming one of nine states to legalize marriage equality when voters approved a ballot initiative in november, but the state by state legislation of same-sex unions may soon be turned upside down by the supreme court, which recently too
russia is a series of clients of russia's, putin has said, you guys, you americans, you can't be sank moneyus about how people live their lives. you want everybody to be like the united states. okay. you saw what happens when you try to foment democracy in places that aren't ready for it. we're here to tell you that if you try to upend assad, even if he is going to ethwe'll go out of business -- >> on his own accord. >> on his own, if you try to do that, you won't like the result,...
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. >>> in russia, president vladimir putin made his own doomsday prediction confidently telling reporters at a news conference yesterday that the world will actually come to an end in 4.5 billion years. because at that time, the sun burns out. at least according to putin. his prediction helped put senator john mccain's mind at ease. the arizona republican tweeted yesterday, thanks, vlad. i can finally rest easy about tomorrow. now this is not the first time mccain and putin have sparred a little on twitter. mccain recently tweeted that putin would have his own arab spring to handle and putin has said that mccain is, quote, nuts. >>> still ahead, why are you awake? your tweets, texts and e-mails and "morning joe" just moments away. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase.
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again, the key here that we've said before, chuck, is that the key here is russia. if they withdraw their total sporks th support, they are syria's strongest ally in the middle east, then game is over. but at the same time russia is signaling don't you think it's time to take a ticket out of damascus and assad is not responding. and another indication is that there are no -- and i mean no -- u.s. military preparations under way for a time when assad may fall and the u.s. military along with the rest of the world may have to get involved. >> keeping the peace or something like that anyway. busy days at the pentagon for you. thank you, sir. up next, the two most popular democrats in the country, neither one of them are named obama. they both share the same last name. they're both named clinton. hillary clinton now says that, quote, all doors are open after she steps down as secretary of state. that means that 2016 buzz won't go away any time soon. >> still to come, majority of the country now supports same-sex marriage. a look ahead at the president's schedule. kind o
again, the key here that we've said before, chuck, is that the key here is russia. if they withdraw their total sporks th support, they are syria's strongest ally in the middle east, then game is over. but at the same time russia is signaling don't you think it's time to take a ticket out of damascus and assad is not responding. and another indication is that there are no -- and i mean no -- u.s. military preparations under way for a time when assad may fall and the u.s. military along with the...
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this year honorees include can the ballerina who escaped soviet russia, dust stin hoffman, davi letterman, and grammy award winning blues man and led zeplin, the legendary rock and roll band. prior to the show, president obama hosted the honorees and offered some humor. >> we've got buddy guy sitting next to dustin hoffman. we've got dave letterman alongside one of the greatest ballerinas of all time. i don't think dave dances. there's no smooth transition from ballerina to led zeplin. we do not have video of this. but there was some hotel rooms trashed. and it's fitting that we're doing this in a room with windows that are about three inches thick. >> the night was filled with performances and heartfelt congratulations. it was a star-studded night. hillary clinton taking this picture with meryl streep. >> you want to win the world series. do you quit, 1-0? no. you keep going. you keep going. do you quit when you're done 1-0 in debates?
this year honorees include can the ballerina who escaped soviet russia, dust stin hoffman, davi letterman, and grammy award winning blues man and led zeplin, the legendary rock and roll band. prior to the show, president obama hosted the honorees and offered some humor. >> we've got buddy guy sitting next to dustin hoffman. we've got dave letterman alongside one of the greatest ballerinas of all time. i don't think dave dances. there's no smooth transition from ballerina to led zeplin. we...
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but when he was 21 he was anxious to commit a grand deed like the ones you saw in russia when he was a child and he decided that the industrials henry clay frick was the czar of the america, the equivalent of the symbolist of capitalist evil. if he could assassinate this man he could inspire the workers to revolt. he killed his victim that survived the attack. >> he was jailed. >> he was in prison for 14 years. >> they had a partnership, at times romantic, at other times a literary partnership, political partnership. this relationship lasted for decades. >> it is an extraordinary thing. they were soulmates. they start out as, you know, teenagers, lovers. and then they just became friends and comrades and as you said, it sort of intellectual partners. this relationship lasted 50 years from america to the soviet union, through europe. through his imprisonment and her traveling around the country. yet, they would try to explain to each other, they had other lovers, she was married and yet it was always that relationship, their friends would say there's really nothing like it. you can't
but when he was 21 he was anxious to commit a grand deed like the ones you saw in russia when he was a child and he decided that the industrials henry clay frick was the czar of the america, the equivalent of the symbolist of capitalist evil. if he could assassinate this man he could inspire the workers to revolt. he killed his victim that survived the attack. >> he was jailed. >> he was in prison for 14 years. >> they had a partnership, at times romantic, at other times a...
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president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton delivered to syria come as that country's ally, russia, signals that the use of chemical weapons is a red line for their own support for syria. joining me now is nbc's chief pentagon correspondent jim jim miklaszewski. a speech that really didn't have anything having to do with what syria, clearly there's intelligence on the ground that has u.s. officials concerned. >> reporter: that's right, chuck. all the latest intelligence indicates that the u.s., nato, and particularly the syrian people are really staring the worst case scenario directly in the face. just about the time rebel forces started to make significant advances in the capital da m damascus, u.s. officials tell nbc news that the assad regime informed its chemical weapons corps to get prepared. and just about that time, u.s. intelligence noticed a flurry of activity around several of the chemical weapons sites, an indication, perhaps, that the chemical corps is moving two precan cursor chemicals to the same locations to weaponize artillery shells and once you combine those prec
president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton delivered to syria come as that country's ally, russia, signals that the use of chemical weapons is a red line for their own support for syria. joining me now is nbc's chief pentagon correspondent jim jim miklaszewski. a speech that really didn't have anything having to do with what syria, clearly there's intelligence on the ground that has u.s. officials concerned. >> reporter: that's right, chuck. all the latest intelligence...
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don't forget that syria is a client of russia. whatever else you say about putin, and there's plenty bad you can say, he brought up something interesting last week. he said, look, you guys, go ahead and have an influence on the outcome. you're not going to like the outcome. when the baath party goes inside syria, you'll have muslim -- the best thing for you is to just stay away. so far we have stayed away. >> medal of honor recipient colonel jack jacobs and msnbc analyst. thank you. >>> while the fiscal cliff has reigning in, some are it's report that had contributions of up 63% for the first nine months. the reason donors are concerned that a fiscal cliff deal could limit the tax deduction on charitable giving in the future. >> good day to you. is that the reason? i think people are worried they won't know what the deduction listen next we're, so front-loading the deduction this year. hopefully it's my wish they don't reduce it at all. >> let's look at some of the numbers. each year 300 billion is given to charity and claim about
don't forget that syria is a client of russia. whatever else you say about putin, and there's plenty bad you can say, he brought up something interesting last week. he said, look, you guys, go ahead and have an influence on the outcome. you're not going to like the outcome. when the baath party goes inside syria, you'll have muslim -- the best thing for you is to just stay away. so far we have stayed away. >> medal of honor recipient colonel jack jacobs and msnbc analyst. thank you....
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i've seen in russia, for example, they can't get people to come work in the space program. so in terms of where we're heading, compared to other countries, we need to stay on a direction and need to have resolve to keep political support behind it and remind the public once in a while that we are moving towards new goals, as you see with the pictures that you showed. >> yeah, those pictures are pretty awesome. james oberg, always great to see you. have a great weekend. >> thanks, chris. >>> that wraps up this hour of "jansing & co." thomas roberts is up next. when c to provide a better benefits package... oahhh! [ male announcer ] it made a big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. ♪ ha ha! in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievemen
i've seen in russia, for example, they can't get people to come work in the space program. so in terms of where we're heading, compared to other countries, we need to stay on a direction and need to have resolve to keep political support behind it and remind the public once in a while that we are moving towards new goals, as you see with the pictures that you showed. >> yeah, those pictures are pretty awesome. james oberg, always great to see you. have a great weekend. >> thanks,...
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. >> russia has to implement the force. this is the most important thing for democratic change. >> so david, there is all this history. one of the things that makes me depressed on shows, it seems as if politics seem like it's politics, but it's not. with world evens and also culture. that's what i found fascinating. how much "meet the press" has been there on the culture front. >> i think one of the advantages of being a washington-based program that covers politics, but also covers what all the tentacles that washington has. you can get into foreign affairs and shifts in the country. i think that all of that is reflected in the ebook. the other thing when senator kennedy passed away and we did a tribute show early on my n my tenure to understand how important the program has been to the news makers themselves. >> they identify themselves about the program. >> it was a big deal and his mother for all of the kennedy boys who were on, it was a big deal to her. >> the letter and this letter we have in the wall of fame that yo
. >> russia has to implement the force. this is the most important thing for democratic change. >> so david, there is all this history. one of the things that makes me depressed on shows, it seems as if politics seem like it's politics, but it's not. with world evens and also culture. that's what i found fascinating. how much "meet the press" has been there on the culture front. >> i think one of the advantages of being a washington-based program that covers...
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russia, perhaps. that's not american. >> governor howard dean, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, the president may get everything he wants accomplished. maybe, just maybe. no matter what the gop has to say for it. and more of lawrence's exclusive interview on marriage equality and the donald. that's coming up. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help
russia, perhaps. that's not american. >> governor howard dean, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, the president may get everything he wants accomplished. maybe, just maybe. no matter what the gop has to say for it. and more of lawrence's exclusive interview on marriage equality and the donald. that's coming up. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema....
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and russia are in, in fact, working toward a political solution led by the u.n. special envoy to syria. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified, democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. a future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> the syrian conflict is also aif he canning the region now. beyond the fears of chemical weapons being used, today the jordanian armed forces returned fire after several shells fired from syria landed in their territory and wounded a soldier. up next back here, big earthquake hits the same japanese coast devastated by last year's massive quake, and what the white house is considering doing that could prevent colorado and washington state from enacting those new pot laws. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best
and russia are in, in fact, working toward a political solution led by the u.n. special envoy to syria. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified, democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. a future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> the syrian conflict is also aif he canning the region now. beyond the fears of chemical weapons being used, today the jordanian armed forces returned fire...
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in china, russia, berlin, korea and vietnam and ike would bluff with nuclear weapons and he was determined to keep us out of war. >> do you think he was an isolationist? >> no. he believed we had to be in the world and very much for native. the first supreme allied commander and he opposed his own party that had a strong isolationist right wing at the time. >> looking back at eisenhower and we had this conversation off camera, i guess i could say he's the closest person we had to an independent or less partisan, least partisan president ideal origin ly. >> a lot of people didn't know if he was a democrat or republican. both parties asked him to run. in his heart he was more of a republican, but it was useful for him to float above politics. he was a great politician. you don't get to be commander of anything unless you are. >> how much politics there is in the military. >> absolutely. >> you don't get the star for just what you did on the battlefield. >> he was very good at dealing with the giant egos he had to deal with. churchill and roosevelt and general patton and what he was great at
in china, russia, berlin, korea and vietnam and ike would bluff with nuclear weapons and he was determined to keep us out of war. >> do you think he was an isolationist? >> no. he believed we had to be in the world and very much for native. the first supreme allied commander and he opposed his own party that had a strong isolationist right wing at the time. >> looking back at eisenhower and we had this conversation off camera, i guess i could say he's the closest person we had...
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hillary clinton hillary clinton is holding surprise talks from russia's prime minister, amid reports president bashar al assad is considering using chemical weapons against his own people. >> afghan president hamid karzai sharply criticizes the united states in an interview with nbc news. he partly blames the u.s. for the instability in his country. >> part of the insecurity comes from the structures that nato and america created in afghanistan. the private security firms, the contractors that they promoted at the cost of afghan people and the way they behaved with the afghan people and the anger that has caused in the afghan people and the resulting insecurity. >> so would you say you believe that some of these would be intentional insecurity brought by nato and the united states? >> it is a very strong perception that some of that insecurity is intentional, yes. >> president karzai also accuses the u.s. of history lating the strategic partnership agreement the country signed last spring and said afghanistan will not sign any new agreements until the u.s. respects afghan sovereignty
hillary clinton hillary clinton is holding surprise talks from russia's prime minister, amid reports president bashar al assad is considering using chemical weapons against his own people. >> afghan president hamid karzai sharply criticizes the united states in an interview with nbc news. he partly blames the u.s. for the instability in his country. >> part of the insecurity comes from the structures that nato and america created in afghanistan. the private security firms, the...
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russia, perhaps. that's not american. >> governor howard dean, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, the president may get everything he wants accomplished. maybe, just maybe. no matter what the gop has to say for it. and more of lawrence's exclusive interview on marriage equality and the donald. that's coming up. [ male announcer ] when it comes to the financial obstacles military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're ready to help. but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bron
russia, perhaps. that's not american. >> governor howard dean, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, the president may get everything he wants accomplished. maybe, just maybe. no matter what the gop has to say for it. and more of lawrence's exclusive interview on marriage equality and the donald. that's coming up. [ male announcer ] when it comes to the financial obstacles military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is...
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they're only outside of russia naval base is in seyria. they want to make sure if there's a transition, they're involved to preserve that. >> and, steve, if the russians back out, does that mean the first action then that -- will we see emergency action at the u.n. perhaps this weekend? when is all this coming to a head? >> i think the russians keep moving in the direction they are, i do think they're there, sending all the signals that they are done with assad and so the market signals are there. i think you'll begin to see movement in the u.n. and, more importantly what's not being discussed the real contest about syria also involved iran. iran is the big proxy supporter of syria and, you know, we have this leak in "the new york times" or coverage in "the new york times" about a potential eventual bilateral discussion between the united states and iran. i think that solving syria, moving syria into a different place changes the game for all the other great powers with iran. >> i would love -- i'm out of time. i would love to get going wi
they're only outside of russia naval base is in seyria. they want to make sure if there's a transition, they're involved to preserve that. >> and, steve, if the russians back out, does that mean the first action then that -- will we see emergency action at the u.n. perhaps this weekend? when is all this coming to a head? >> i think the russians keep moving in the direction they are, i do think they're there, sending all the signals that they are done with assad and so the market...